Can anyone get me a paper? - Haskell

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Sandy Maguire

A review of my book just showed up in the journal of FP, but it's paywalled and so I can't read it. Can anyone hook me up with a copy? Cheers! https://doi.org/10.1017/S0956796820000015

TheMatten

Why would anyone want to buy review that's more than half way to the actual book price?

Fintan Halpenny

Haven't used it myself, but I think I came across an article suggesting, "_you should definitely not use this_"

Sandy Maguire

my boy found me a copy

James King

The abstract made it sound pretty good. Fwiw I've been enjoying the book. :+1:

gilmi

Same, it's a very good book.

Sridhar Ratnakumar

sci-hub is also worth a try.

Haven't used it myself, but I think I came across an article suggesting, "_you should definitely not use this_" :-P

Hazem

Slightly off-topic: Recently, I got upset by the Journal of FP over their ridiculous prices. I wanted to get a personal subscription (I don't have institutional access) and inquired about the pricing. The journal publishers sent me a price quote for the latest volume, which only had 3 published papers at the time. It was $224.00 (electronic version only)

Assuming it's the same price per each volume, I think it would cost me ~$6700 to obtain access to the archive of papers in the Journal of FP, and I have to keep paying for upcoming volumes. I don't expect knowledge for free, but these prices are unreasonable for individuals. I'm assuming at least some of that research is funded by government grants and it should be reflected in the pricing. Also, pay-walling one of main sources of FP publications is not a good strategy for fostering FP adoption in the programming community.

Fintan Halpenny

Knowledge that can't be shared is pretty useless, so why charge so much for it? And why even charge for a review of someone else's work? Unless they're adding something unique to what Sandy has already written.

Hazem

Exactly! BTW, if I purchase the book review from the Journal of FP, does the review author receive any portion of my payment?

Sandy Maguire

they emailed me saying "hey we reviewed your book!"

Sandy Maguire

and then sent me a link to the paywal

Sandy Maguire

i'm going to press on them and see if they'll send me it for free

Sandy Maguire

either way i think it will be an interesting experience

Hazem

If the journal refuses to send you the review for free, try contacting the review author directly. I think authors in general have permission to provide free copies directly to people even if the paper was published behind a paywall. (I'm not certain about that point)

Author's e-mail: jennifer.hackett@nottingham.ac.uk
http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~pszjlh/

Sam Stites

What was the article that said you shouldn't be using sci-hub.tw? I can't imagine any downside other than to the publishers, but I can't exactly afford to pay $40 just to decide if a paper is worth investigating

Первый в мире пиратский ресурс, который открыл массовый доступ к десяткам миллионов научных статей
Sandy Maguire

@Hazem i've already read it, mostly just curious in just how broken the system is

Hazem

haha I see. I'd be curious to know what their reply is if you don't mind sharing

Hazem

I wonder if it's possible to pursue the FP community to not publish behind paywalls (or at least upload a pre-print of their papers to their personal websites or online paper archives)

Hazem

Nice! I'm glad the system isn't fully broken hehehe
Thanks for the update!