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I mean publicly searchable on Google. You know, for discoverability. Esp. useful in cases when people search Google for things like 'how do I do foo in haskell' etc
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I was thinking, static HTML archives can be added to keybase pages ( https://keybase.io/docs/kbp ) ... starting with zulip-archive (possibly to be replaced in future by a nicer Haskell based generator).
@James King If you'd like to take over the zulip-archive bot maintenance I can had over control of the github organization to you. This archiver is hardcoded to use github jekyll
@TheMatten Yea, the archive idea is up for grabs, but I hope whoever picks it up will use my library for archive generation: https://github.com/srid/rib (I'm most happy to help!)
Right now, my hobby project is to play with reflex and svg, involving hexgrid layouts for rendering triominos (and later write AI for it)
This is the master issue for the large project of supporting viewing logged-out Zulip history. This is useful for two major uses case: For community and open source projects, to make it possible to...
@Sridhar Ratnakumar when generating the archive do you run the script and add the output to the repo? or are you using a different generator? (would it be useful to include the generator script in the repo?)
@James King I just wanted to let you know that I've been working on a Zulip archiver in Haskell. I'm at the point where I have pulled channels and streams, now need to sync messages as well.
I think having publicly available logs would be a great distinctive feature compared to Slack; and it might get us more mindshare, and thus more users. :-) That's the motivation behind it.
Made some good progress on this. I like how this is going to have clean URLs for every topic, example /polysemy/monadio-instance-for-sem.html. Much Google juice to be provided.
In latest master of zulip-archive, things should no longer be hardcoded. So if any of you guys want to play with it, or contribute towards implementing some of the features reported in Issues, feel free to take a look! @TheMatten@Pavan Rikhi ... I'm gonna focus on client work for a while
This would help display posts as rich results in search result pages: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/intro-structured-data https://schema.org/docs/schemas.html The few relevant ty...
I feel like ... we should 'brand' it. I don't like non-brand-y domains like funprog.srid.ca. Perhaps we can use haskell.zettel.page ... chat.haskell.zettel.page?
I guess something like that would make sense - though this Zulip instance is about FP in general, not just Haskell, so we should probably come up with something less specific
Are the chat logs publicly searchable? If not can it be made so? Google juice is delicious.
@TheMatten
You mean you want to search history through Google?
https://zulipchat.com/help/search-for-messages
Integrated search, being "domain-specific", seems to have some nifty features
@Sridhar Ratnakumar
I mean publicly searchable on Google. You know, for discoverability. Esp. useful in cases when people search Google for things like 'how do I do foo in haskell' etc
And yeah full history
Oh, yeah, that would be cool, not sure
Are our streams private or public? cf. https://zulipchat.com/help/change-the-privacy-of-a-stream
Okay n/m - this doesn't look like the same thing
I'm asking the Lean folks how they generate https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive/
https://github.com/leanprover-community/leanprover-community.github.io/blob/master/import.py is used to do the import and run by a scheduler, and the zulip team have create a standalone version from it: https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive
We could use this too - @Leonardo Taglialegne are you interested? :slight_smile:
Yeah, I think I can arrange that =)
Do we have a domain?
If I write a log archiver in Haskell, would you folks be interested? :-D
(I did the same for Slack: https://github.com/srid/Taut )
@Leonardo Taglialegne If we don't need nice TLD, we can get free domain at freenom.com
Has anyone moved on this? Maybe we could host on github pages?
I'll take a look at this today.
Cool. No rush, I was going to offer to look into it if nobody else was interested. Cheers!
I was thinking, static HTML archives can be added to keybase pages ( https://keybase.io/docs/kbp ) ... starting with zulip-archive (possibly to be replaced in future by a nicer Haskell based generator).
The python archiver is utterly broken.
I have a quick and dirty version here: https://funprogzulip.github.io/archive/
Not totally convinced about keep using this, though.
Had to fix a few things in the python code.
the workflow is terrible, and code is badly written
@James King If you'd like to take over the zulip-archive bot maintenance I can had over control of the github organization to you. This archiver is hardcoded to use github jekyll
Happy to help. :)
I'm
agentultraon Github@Sridhar Ratnakumar Wow, I can imagine using this - maybe we could find someone interested in writing this e.g. in Haskell as a cool project
@James King Invited you to https://github.com/funprogzulip/funprogzulip.github.io
Cool. :+1:
@TheMatten Yea, the archive idea is up for grabs, but I hope whoever picks it up will use my library for archive generation: https://github.com/srid/rib (I'm most happy to help!)
Right now, my hobby project is to play with reflex and svg, involving hexgrid layouts for rendering triominos (and later write AI for it)
Especially if they also gonna use nix, I can pair a bit in the project.
FWIW if anyone is curious, here's the overarching tracking issue for this https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/13172
@Sridhar Ratnakumar when generating the archive do you run the script and add the output to the repo? or are you using a different generator? (would it be useful to include the generator script in the repo?)
I have some spare time to set this up on my server to automate the archive generation
IIRC I was
git add'ingthe generated files manually.Ah ok. Should be pretty easy to script then. :thank_you:
@James King I just wanted to let you know that I've been working on a Zulip archiver in Haskell. I'm at the point where I have pulled channels and streams, now need to sync messages as well.
I think having publicly available logs would be a great distinctive feature compared to Slack; and it might get us more mindshare, and thus more users. :-) That's the motivation behind it.
The repo is still private; but I can open it up (before ready milestone) if people are curious or want to contribute.
I'd be into checking it out if that's cool w/ you
I want more people here :D
Okay, published here: https://github.com/srid/zulip-archive (work in progress)
Made some good progress on this. I like how this is going to have clean URLs for every topic, example
/polysemy/monadio-instance-for-sem.html. Much Google juice to be provided.Public announcement - zulip archives are now publicly available at https://funprog.srid.ca/
One less reason to stay at Slack :-D
BTW, you can take branding from Zulip to make it more "personalized" :slight_smile: (or I can send you original images of logo and icon)
Ya, feel free to open up issues in https://github.com/srid/zulip-archive
It's so cool - you even did links and code blocks! :heart:
That's thanks to the zulip API which returns the raw HTML, so I didn't have to do all the rendering work!
Uploaded files is the only area where their API lacks, as we have to do that manually (no API to fetch all uploaded files)
Let's strategically inject URLs to specific conversation from the archive in fpslack as a form of advertising :D
amazing work my dude
In latest master of
zulip-archive, things should no longer be hardcoded. So if any of you guys want to play with it, or contribute towards implementing some of the features reported in Issues, feel free to take a look! @TheMatten @Pavan Rikhi ... I'm gonna focus on client work for a whileScreenshot_20200211-224731.png
Google juice ...
That's dope! Nice work!
It will be better if someone implements Pavan's idea https://github.com/srid/zulip-archive/issues/11
I was searching Google for something and then our archive came in the results! image.png
Did a google search for
ipfs zettelkastenand this was the result! image.pngThat's your comment @Sam Stites
: ) nice! Thanks for hosting the archives!
Another! image.png
Imagine what it'll be like a year from now :grinning:
I feel like ... we should 'brand' it. I don't like non-brand-y domains like
funprog.srid.ca. Perhaps we can usehaskell.zettel.page...chat.haskell.zettel.page?With the idea being: chat archives, and wiki-esque content in one place ... our community Haskell site.
I guess something like that would make sense - though this Zulip instance is about FP in general, not just Haskell, so we should probably come up with something less specific
lol I overlooked all that.